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If I had an active fannish Twitter or Tumblr, I would have added to my profile: 100% Absolutely Positively Not a Hugo Award Winner. But I don't, so I shan't.

The Fanlore write-up of the controversy.

This is really putting me off the Hugos and Worldcon. Feels like another cultural clash in SFF, and I am really fucking tired of them. They're necessary and good changes can come out of them, but so tired.

Date: 2019-09-20 10:15 pm (UTC)
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Then a white male mansplainer asshole showed up ON AO3 and was like "Let me explain it to you hysterical females," and when he started getting pressed closely by knowledgeable people was like "The answer is 'it depends' and 'I'm not answering that without money.'" It sounded like he wanted people to PAY HIM. And then he admitted he had nothing to do with the Board and it was not his area anyway and he had no fucking experience with this specific thing. Fucking idiot.

Date: 2019-09-20 11:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyprinella
Yeah, I think that's the guy rahaeli is taking to task on Twitter. The knob.

I also think NeolithicSheep had a good point about it being very much a clash between collective/anarchist thinking vs. hierarchical/capitalist thinking

Date: 2019-09-21 12:19 am (UTC)
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people like JJ and Contrarianus and Hampus are focused on very individualistic capitalist terms - exclusive, special, devalue, debase

That is an excellent point!

And they also seem hyperfocused on the idea that someone will slap "Hugo Nominated" on their fanfic and sell it, which....is not what anyone associated with AO3 has done or would do. (The Puppies, on the other hand....)

Date: 2019-09-25 09:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] havocthecat
I mean, that's just the language that the asshole version of attorneys use when they want to sound like fucking know-it-alls but they don't actually know shit and can't back it up without a couple-three hours of research and they don't want to do it for free.

I KNOW. I KNOW THIS ONE. Not only do I work with lawyers, I'm friends with some who ARE ASSHOLES. (I mean, they're larpers, most larpers are assholes, that's just a thing. I love larpers too, that's a paradoxical statement right there, I know.)

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